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The_Boaphile
04-29-2006, 10:45 AM
I am not sure if this is widely known or not, but there are tons of bloodlines of Anerythristics out there. Tons. Anerythrytics come in with virtually every shipment of imports and are picked out by dealers and sold for a little more than the other animals. The Anerythristics out there are not the descendants of one or two bloodlines. I have gotten at least 20 wild caught, "farm bred" Anerythristics over the years. So there is no such thing as Type I and Type II being just two bloodlines. "Type I" only came about after someone, I have no idea who, named their Central American Anerythristic a "Type II". Anerythristic is Anerythristic. There are Central American Anerys, Colombian Anerys, Ortoni Anerys etc. But to be sure, there are multiple bloodlines of Colombian Anerys. My Ivory Anerys came from a female Anerythristic I had and bred and produced hets and didn't even know they were Anerythiristic hets until a couple years after they were born. I had never seen a large Anery and only then did I realized I already had one and a bunch of hets. A little bit more of Anerythristic history.

A Boa Breeder from California named Glenn Carlzen was the very first to identify the Anerythristic Colombians in about 1986 or 1987. He was going through piles of babies and noticed some looked "different". He realized that they lacked red pigment and picked out a bunch of them to raise and breed. I saw my first Anerythristic baby in Orlando and the big snake part in 1991 I believe. I used to be in Orlando before Daytona you know... This was an animal that Glenn had produced. It was shocking to me how beautiful this animal lacking that color, really was. I took the only photograph I took in Orlando of that animal. Here is a picture of that very animal at the bottom of this scanned page:

http://www.boaconstrictor.net/gallery/data/500/anery1992.jpg

This was a Glenn Carlzen produced animal. I believe Glenn died around 1995 unfortunately but his animals live on as do the Anerythristics from the female that is the grandmother of the Ivories I have produced and many other completely unrelated bloodlines. The female anerythristic I bred produced her babies in about 1994. She was about ten years old at the time and had been produced at a zoo. So she had been born about the same time I obtained my first Boas.

Jeff Ronne
The Boaphile

boidae
04-29-2006, 11:08 AM
i know this happens with the honduran and nicaraguan imperators i had anaristic youn ones in more than one litter the one much darker than the other.With the hondurans in extreem the first one i got from here was realy dark looking the second almost grey turning a little darker as the time went by.And an other youn in the same litter was a real fire belly never saw so much difference in one litter hope thee same happens this year she is due 25 mai.(105 pos)

jadeboa
04-29-2006, 09:36 PM
Thanks for the history..........that is good information to know.

boxingboa
04-29-2006, 09:38 PM
Thank you for the History.Good info to know.

boadave
04-30-2006, 02:57 AM
hey jeff thanks for the history lesson...learn something new everyday...i`m not knocking any other breeder out there but some have told me you breed anerey to anerey to get type 2 anereys and thats how you get blacker boas... pete kahl has one thats all black....how is that? boadave:rolleyes:

boidae
04-30-2006, 03:08 AM
i know that the boa republic has the all black(patternless) boa they bred 2 central american modleys(super mods) and got the patternles one.
But just as jou guys say its nice to learn about the history of anerystic boa`s.
Is there a same about amelanistic animals to?Not counting the hog islands.

ecreipeoj
05-03-2006, 10:04 AM
It will be interesting to see of the Type I and Type II Anerys are compatible genetically. For now, they are just from different locals. With all of the wild caught Anerys that have came in, you would think that a true Type II that is incompatible with the original Anerys will inevitably be found. Since nobody seems to test new wild caughts to see if they are compatible with the known strains, it will most likely come when somebody breeds two Snows together and pop out some Amels or Normals. I have already seen some Het to Het Breedings that should have produced Anerys and Snows that did not. Was it just bad luck, or were both parents het for different Anery genes?

In Corn Snakes, we have proven that we have two different types of Anerys that when bred together produce Normals, just like the Kahl and Sharp Albinos. I am sure this will happen with Boa Anerys too. We call the original Anery Corns (Anery Corns or Black Albino Corns) and Type II or Type B as we call them, Charcoal Corns.

The so called "T+ Albino" Boas have not been tested either. It seems unlikely, that the "T+" Colombians, Nics, and Argentines are all compatible and therefore, the one and only "T+ Albino" gene. They all look like extreme recessive hypo genes to me, which are extremely attractive and may or may not be compatible with each other.

The_Boaphile
05-03-2006, 10:43 AM
Not all Colombian Anerys are compatible. I know one fellow that bred I believe a Ghost with an Anery male and did not produce any Anerys or Ghosts. Just normals that were double het for two different Anerys and Hypos that were double het for two different Anerys and Hypo. That would be a bummer...

Regarding the Motleys. So far as I know, I have not heard of anyone that has bred a Motley and an Anery together. There could be some out there but I have not heard of it. The Motleys and super Motleys are not Anerys though most of them have very little red color influence so far. Some of the Hypo Motleys have some color to be sure though.

BOAMAN76
05-03-2006, 11:11 AM
Jeremy Stone and Alex from Boa Republic, both have produced seperate Motley Het Anery litters a few years ago. Frank Martin owns one of the male Motley Het Anerys Jeremy produced. He has yet to produce with it to my knowledge.

Mike
'BASICALLY BOAS'

ajfreptiles
05-03-2006, 12:19 PM
I am hoping this Anery male will provide some compatability....He has some great color! What do you all think? Thanks Andy

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