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denny_rimes
06-06-2005, 02:52 PM
There are some very graphic pictures at the end of this post, so if you have a weak stomach … go back now.

Yesterday our 2 year old DH Sunglow died. We knew she was having some health issues but this was totally unexpected. Until a couple weeks ago she has always been the picture of health, but it appears now she had been sick for quite some time. I am posting this here to be educational and informative, and to illustrate how little we know or can do sometimes.

A couple of weeks ago we got what I thought was a very odd looking stool out of Gloria. I now believe it to be a regurge. It was grayish-pink and about the consistency of wet paper pulp, full of hair and not much odor. It was about a week and a half since her last meal. I didn’t think too much of this, sometimes you just find something weird, but it really isn’t anything to be concerned about. A couple of days later more of the same grayish matter was found in her cage.
A few more days pass and she refuses her meal. This is the first time she has ever done this in the two years we have had her. I am now becoming concerned that something really might be going on with her. We decide to tube a dose of Flagyl into her and see if this will help with whatever her digestive issue is. After we have tubed her, we discover that she has a small area about ¾ of the way down her body on her belly that is kinked and flat, and obviously painful to her. It looks like she has been crushed.
We make our fist trip to the vet the next day. The vet seems to think it is some kind of trauma (she has been squashed or injured herself in some way) his X-ray equipment is broken, so I leave with no real answers. I spend the next couple of days questioning how she might have hurt her herself, alone in a Rubbermaid tub, and cannot come up with any answers.
Feeding day comes again and she takes a small mouse (a very small meal for her) with gusto. I think great! Then two days later I find it regurged in her cage. Crap!!! Now I am really starting to worry. I call the vet again and make an appointment for some X-rays to be taken on Saturday. If she is broken, like we all seemed to think, I want to know the extent of the damage.
The X-rays show that she is not broken in any way. They do show some fecal matter right in the area that she is having problems. The vet decides to tube some laxative into her to relieve this “possible blockage”. We get home and she regurges everything that has been tubed into her. She pukes again three more times on Saturday. I’m thinking “Crap, this is getting really serious.” I decide to call the vet again first thing Monday.

Sunday afternoon Gloria died.

The vet came by today and did a necropsy. He took tissue samples to send away for a pathology report. But his initial feeling is cancer. As you can see from the pictures Gloria’s entire liver is covered with growths. Her lower gut was hard and calcified and the vet thought it was a miracle that she hadn’t regurged before. Her one kidney was normal but the other was also covered with growths. (he removed half of it for the pathology sample).

Like I said at the beginning of this post, until a couple weeks ago Gloria appeared to be the picture of health. Great appetite, good growth, excellent looking snake. It just shows how little we really know.

Flat spot on underside, which we now know was a VERY painful kidney
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This is her kidneys. A good one compared to a bad one.
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Her liver completely covered in growths.
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Calcified section of her stomach.
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This is Gloria how she will be remembered by us!
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Denny & Kathy Rimes

coldjoe
06-06-2005, 03:15 PM
My condolence Denny & Kathy
It is a very sad day.

Joseph

ratman
06-06-2005, 03:58 PM
I am so very sorry! My deepest sympathies go out to you!

louie
06-06-2005, 04:09 PM
I am very sorry for your loss.My deepest codolences.Good luck to you in the future.

JoePat
06-06-2005, 04:17 PM
Sorry to hear that she looked like a beautiful boa

ShannGo3
06-07-2005, 06:05 AM
She sure was one beautiful snake. I am so very sorry for your loss! I know it must have been hard to write about her and post the pictures, But thanks for educating us. I hope you will find ease and calmness in knowing that she is no longer suffering. And there was nothing that you could have done for her. From all the post that I have read you seem like a great Boa parent. I bet she had a great life with you. Thank you again for posting the info and the pictures. I am very sorry! Shannon

denny_rimes
06-07-2005, 07:16 AM
I appreciate all of your kind words. It was more difficult than I had anticipated to watch the vet necropsy her...but in the end, if we can learn to care for our others better, it will have been worth it.

We should get some answers back from pathology in about 10 days. I will post the results when they come in.

Thanks again, everyone!

Denny & Kathy

thunder
06-07-2005, 09:25 AM
very, very sad; you have my condolences and deepest sympathy. at least it wasn't your fault, something beyond your control. i just lost my favorite boa, and when i cut him open, it was pretty clear he'd died from an RI. he didn't show any of the signs until the night he died, when i heard him sniffle. i figured, oh, i'll call the vet tommorow, sound like an RI, next morning, dead. it really hurts alot to lose a favorite animal, again, i empathize.

horny_dragon
06-09-2005, 04:04 AM
My condolences, wow , so sorry to see /hear that!!
Thank you to share , so we can educate our self ...
GOOD LUCK in the FUTURE.

denny_rimes
06-16-2005, 12:36 PM
We got the report back from our veterinarian today.
As we suspected, the cause of death was organ failure due to cancer. It started in the stomach and metastasized to involve both the liver and one kidney. There is no definitive cause to the cancer so all we are left with is merely speculation, which at this point, I do not have the knowledge to have a truly informed opinion.

It is a sad thing to lose any pet this way, to be sure. Unfortunately the price we all pay for life is to have it someday taken from us. We are happy for the time that we had with Gloria and sad that she did not make it to adulthood....but at the risk of sounding cliche'.....Life goes on!

Thanks again to all who responded for your thoughts and words.

Kathy & Denny Rimes

Jesse
06-16-2005, 02:11 PM
Wow, what a sad story. This really stinks Denny, I am truly sorry to hear about your loss. Not only did you lose an increibly beautiful snake, I am sure you lost a pet that you hoped to never see die. Good luck with everything, I am glad it wasnot something that could be passed on to the rest of your collection.