Breeding questions for OLDer bcc...

[bcijoe]

I posted a little of this under my question in the Caging Questions and Comments section, let me bring this point up here.

I recently acquired a pair of 9 year old Kahl produced 8'+ 40 pound + Peruvian Redtails.

Yes, they are big and FAT and HEAVY! ::)

I was told that they were never bred.
I was also told that they developed some 'physical conditions' because of this, which I have also seen and confirmed.

The female (don't remember if the male has it too) has a crease on her underside, around the lung area. The crease is dead center and about 1 foot long or more.

Someone, who was somewhat experienced, told the person I acquired these from, who was more inexperienced, that this occurred for one reason or another because she was not bred.

Does this even make sense?

Well, the male also has something weird - he has 'wrinkles' on his tail.
If I remember correctly, I MAY have seen this on one or more of Jeff's huge Peruvian bcc in one of his first video's several years ago. If I am incorrect, my apologies.

Now I don't see how these 'defects' can be a good thing but am deffinately worried if they are a bad thing.

I purchased these boas to breed them, not to take up half my apartment so I can shovel food in to them all day! Hope that's not how this turns out!!! :-/ :-X :-/

BESIDES these 'defects', or visual impairments.., do you think they are TOO OLD to breed or won't because they haven't bred in their 9 years??
Could the female still ovulate normally? and maybe more importantly, will the male be able tp produce sperm and copulate and 'deliver the package' ? lol

Well I am hoping to produce from this pair next year.

Any and all responses and comment will be appreciated!

Thanks all - take care, Joe Rollo
:-* :-* :-*

[BIG_dan]

I have no idea if your snakes are in good health, but as far as age...... it might depend on each snake but my friend just got 27 babies out of a 12 year old bci !! Hope your kids are healthy. :'(

[kasper22]

9 isn't really old. they can live to be 30.

[bcijoe]

Thanks guys for your input.
Maybe I should've specified, it's not really the age i'm concerned with but moreso the fact that they haven't had any 'sexual' activity resulting in anything positive.

To clarify, they are very healthy animals - visually perfect. I can tell I need to put something in their stomach soon, as it is a little saggy and they are STILL thicker/wider than my thigh!

Anyone know what the largest recorded Peruvian bcc is or its measurements?
I'm sure Jeff can contribute in that area...

So the crease is the biggest of my worries... pretty sure the tail 'wrinkling' is because of old age.

Again I don't think these are just 'too old'...

I was told they initiated copulation 2 different seasons in the years they were able to breed, but no ovulation from the female. Makes me wonder....
Thanks again and keep 'em coming!

[Panama_Red]

I have had a mature huge male with the wrinkled tail, looked like the michilin tire man, this is normal for a large male. As far as the crease goes under the female I'm geussing It's from massive girth. I think the chances of producing some offspring are great, they weren't bred at the earlyest age possible, there mature boas probably ready to get it on. Where are the pics? and good luck!

[bcijoe]

Thanks for the info!
Here's a pic of the male, I believe...

[bcijoe]

and the female...

[bcijoe]

and one in a pretty cage..lol

that's an orange columbian in the cage below them - she is 6 feet long, just for size reference..
The peruvians are about 4-6 times as wide as the 6 footer!

[Panama_Red]

If those 2 are virgins at that size I think your about to hit the Peruvian boa Jackpot! If you have any doubts send me an email I'll be glad to take them off your hands!