genetic ? Sure to stir up opinions

[ratman]

What about the "genetic stripes" we keep seeing out there? Are they compatible? Would PK's stripe line and one of these other "lines" produce stripes or would you get double hets? I believe this would be the case. What do you guys and/or gals think?

[Panama_Red]

I think there are to many variables to predict without actually trying it out. I think stripes are a sweet morph and greatly under priced. When combined with other morphs they should make some gorgous boas.

[Randy_T.]

I agree...stripes are way under appreciated
I think give the stripes a couple years to prove out what is genetic other then the kahl line etc and they might go up in pricing, since right now it is kind of hard to prove you have anything other then a temp fluctuated striper.

[bcijoe]

I believe the Striping scenario can appear 3 ways....
1 is by chance, possibly by temp fluctuation
the other is from a het to het breeding (making that instance a heterozygous trait)
and last but not least, it is codominant, in some cases..

I have had a genetic khal bred to an aberrant female = no stripes

I have had a het for stripe bred to a normal female = 1 very big dorsal striped baby, 1 full tail striped baby

I now have many Co-Dominant Striping animals and hope to prove them out soon, some this year...

I have not yet bred het to het, nor genetic stripe to genetic stripe (showing the trait)

I also think that Striped animals are beautiful and deserve more than they get...
These were a big part of my collection until about 2 years ago when I saw the prices fall rather than rise.

Hopefully I will get some nice stripers this year to be able to plug into bigger projects.

I lost the infatuation I used to have with these animals, but i'll tell you what, one of my favorite 'morphs' still, is

the REVERSE STRIPED TRAIT!!!! especially when the reverse stripe contains the tail color.... WWHHHOAOOAA BOYY!!!

You know, like Jeff's Pearlescents???? Those beasts are SSSAAAAHHWWWEEEEETTTTTTTTTTT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Panama_Red]

Here's a pic of a striped hypo, Ive used this pic alot, but I think he's a smoker. Stripes can only better your morph project .

[Jon-e-Boy]

Man, I thought I was the only one who thought the striped gene was underappreciated. I think it is because stripes show up all over the place, even if they are not genetic. But because of the ambiguity of the genetics, I have stayed away from them.

Jon Falco

[UnFazedSlim]

I think like the rest of the group..stripes are very under appreciated right now. Just wait for some of the other morphs to settle a bit. Someone will have worked the stripe line for a while by then and start introducing this to the other morphs..and bam. I see it taking off from there.

~Slim :'( :-*

[Linda]

The really funny thing about stripes is that "today" everbody loves them. Of course, 20 years ago you couldn't "give them striped animals away!". LOL They were considered "unattractive" and even "UGLY". I sure wish I had some of those stripers I sold for 25 dollars each, 20 years ago, today. I'd make a killing.

[Boabrat]

Here is an example of a non-proven stripe morph, the 'Tiger' Boa Constrictors. These are a morph in the central american boa line that seems to pop up here and there but has not been a proven genetic morph yet as far as I can tell. In a couple years when this little girl os of breeding age, I will let you know if she proves out, and also if I can get any albino tigers from her and my hets or future albino boas (Albino Tiger is a breeding accomplishment I would love to make).



http://www.weaselmonkey.com/images/tigerhead.JPG



Here is a very small stripe in the tail of one of my Columbians, it is not as striking as the tiger or the picture I saw previously posted in reply to this topic, But: The father had nearly the same exact stripe, as do each of his brothers. Every male from this litter and the father have the same small, yet cool looking stripe at the end of their tails. This stripe is very minor in my opinion, but I am 1000% sure it is genetic in this case.



http://www.weaselmonkey.com/images/tail.JPG



It is aso important to know that 'striping' can be a birth defect that is non-genetic. Pregnant boas, or clutches of python eggs exposed to lower than normal temperatures often cause minor birth defects, including striping. If someone has a very small number of stripes for sale, ad they are all females, that is a valid possability to consider, or watch out for.

-John >:(

[ksshane]

I think we have just begun to see the stripe morphs...   In a couple of years I think that the striped boas will blow our minds.   We are seeing some sweet stripes now, but in a couple of years.... look out....

Just my opinion

[Jon-e-Boy]

I want a boa with no pattern at all. I think this is going to be a consequence of the striped gene. Then I want to breed it into my snows and produce 'patternless snow'! That is a cool morph.

[Boabrat]

Ah, the search for a TRUE Luecistic "patternless" Boa... perhaps soon but not yet from all I have seen. Actually in my opinion, until more is done to scientifically isolate the different varients of Boas besides the commercial BS made by political borders and patterns we will all be hard pressed to breed for perfection. Whether your perfection is patternless or completely normal patterned boas. We see glimpses at what might be, and I know that drives me to go for it. My dream is simple for now; an albino Tiger boa. If patternless is the way you want to go, look towards the 'Sunglow' boas and other designer morphs for now... but the future holds endless new morphs.. coming soon to a petshop near you!