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The_Boaphile
06-26-2004, 04:00 PM
Born June 12, 2004:

Pink "Sears" bloodline Hogg Island Boas:

The_Boaphile
06-26-2004, 04:01 PM
Born June 25, 2004:

"TJ" bloodline Hypo and Pastel Boas:

The_Boaphile
06-26-2004, 04:03 PM
Born June 26, 2004, about one hour ago at 6:00 PM:

"Ivory" Anerythristics and some of the nicest Pastels I have seen for a long time:

The_Boaphile
06-26-2004, 04:03 PM
Another angle of the same litter:

The_Boaphile
06-26-2004, 04:04 PM
Look at that one on the bottom right! The one with the jiggly pattern! I gotta go back down for a better look at that puppy!!!

The_Boaphile
06-26-2004, 04:18 PM
Here he is up close still in the sack:

The_Boaphile
06-26-2004, 04:18 PM
Here he is again at a slightly different angle:

The_Boaphile
06-26-2004, 04:21 PM
Another shot of him in my little hand. I am pumped! The POWER of the Pastel is all over this baby! I can't wait till my next TJ female drops! She is the best female from that litter and she was bred to the best male from that litter too! That is the same litter the "Electro-Shock" Boa came from! I am really nervous over here now!

CyberSerpents
06-26-2004, 05:21 PM
Holy Cow!!! Congrats Jeff!!!

I can't wait to see what you have in store for us next.

Thanks for sharing!:'(

rbaker
06-26-2004, 05:21 PM
Congrats....awesome litters! I love pattern on that last one. You better have a lot of rat pups on stock!

Randy_T.
06-26-2004, 07:35 PM
Congrats Jeff.. Looks like some really nice keepers in that bunch :'(

Randy_T.
06-26-2004, 07:41 PM
Also.. Jeff what is the origin of the TJ pastel line? I just now looked at the available page and hadn't noticed them before and wouldn't have looked had you not posted them here. Very nice line btw.

The_Boaphile
06-27-2004, 06:23 AM
The "TJ" bloodline originated from Rob Tudehope, from Iowa, the state with no trees. I got the original female named "TJ" from Rob in about 1994. I bred her in 1995 with "Honest John" an extremely washed out light lavender pink Pastel male I had gotten from the completely "Dishonest John", who beyond that shall remain nameless since he has left the herp business, thankfully.

Anyhow after being bred by Honest John she produced about half a litter of Pastels AND the Electroshock Boa seen below:

http://www.theboaphile.com/Electroshock.JPG

I still have four of the females she produced and one male from that litter. The litter last year was produced using a "TJ" female and beautiful Hypo male. Here is one of last years babies:

http://www.theboaphile.com/images/available/22011.jpg

This year that same female was bred with an Albino. We have those babies but are feeding them a few meals before offering them for sale. The litter in the photo posted earlier here was bred by a Hypo as well. I still have one of the other two females gravid. She was bred by her brother and I am really hoping that we might see lightning strike again with another Electroshock baby(s). Unfortunately the Electroshock male in the photo above died for no apparent reason about the time he was three years old without having produced any babies.

The "TJ" female that is still gravid is the best one from the litter. Her color is unbelievable and we have high hopes for some smoking babies from her soon!

Randy_T.
06-27-2004, 06:31 AM
Thanks Jeff.. That line looks like it has some insane potential to contribute toward your Pink pastel albino projects. Bummer about the electroshock male kicking over. (It seems that alot of the wild new looks have issues like that which could be disheartening I am sure)

Also are you expecting any more Pastel albinos this season?

The_Boaphile
06-27-2004, 06:47 AM
Pastel Albinos? Almost no chance but still a chance this year. The mother of the Pastel Albinos died gravid. It was about three weeks ago. She wasn't due for another 6 weeks or so and was loosing a lot of weight. That was not a good thing. I treated her with Tylan and Amakacin to no avail. She would not eat anything and I knew she would not make it if I could not get some food into her. She wasted away very quickly and died full of babies. There are more Pastel females that I have, but except for 4' and younger, there are none that are known Hets. Just 66% possible Hets. Time will tell...

We have the one litter of "TJ" Pastels het for Albino already. One more likely litter of Hets coming from a "Lucy" bloodline Pastel. This is the same bloodline the EBV Red Group animals descend from. I also have one HUGE 66% Pastel possible het female that is likely gravid. She was bred by a 3' Albino that weighs about 1 lb. She is about a 40 lb. animal. It was pretty comical to see that little guy all over her. She is acting gravid but likely is carrying a lot of slugs since she has not gotten all that huge. Again, time will tell. She is the only possibility for this year.

Randy_T.
06-27-2004, 06:52 AM
I am really sorry to hear that news Jeff. Quite unfortunate. I hope the 66%er proves out and that li'l albino shows to have been a stud.

tattooed_rose
06-27-2004, 08:28 PM
when is the tj female expected to give birth? and is that a more orange pastel line?

The_Boaphile
06-30-2004, 02:54 PM
When I collect babies from their Mother's cage I have a very handy tool that I place all of them in. It is called a "Tall Kitchen Garbage Can". The one I use happens to be blue because my youngest favorite color is blue. Here is a picture of the "Ivory" and Pastel Litter babies in the "Boa Bucket"! We have had quite a few Boas in this bucket over the last few years. 25 babies. I don't know how many of them are Anerythristics yet. Stay tuned...

The_Boaphile
06-30-2004, 02:55 PM
Here is the litter of "TJ" Hypos and hopefully a few nice Pastels. 21 babies of which 11 are Hypos. Several are really red too! I can't wait till these babies shed!

Randy_T.
06-30-2004, 03:51 PM
Those babies look good :'(

Are you going to have any "white" boas this year?

Bushbaby
06-30-2004, 10:45 PM
I would like that one, and that one, and that one!!! Geez, that one with the copper look, is ::) STUNNING (in the last pic)!! It's not fair!!! They are really awesome!! Congrats!!

The_Boaphile
07-01-2004, 05:07 AM
The color isn't right on that last bucket-o-boas. The "copper" colored kids are pink. A really rich pink. I'll get good photos of some of them posted after they shed.

No "Whites" this year but I had some last year which I have yet to post...

Too much glue sniffing building cages and racks. Makes it hard for me to get around to posting kids for sale.

Bushbaby
07-01-2004, 11:10 PM
Thanx, it's still a dam fine looking boa!!! Well done!!

RedArgentine
07-03-2004, 05:36 PM
;)Jeff ;)You need to update your site :-/so I can stop :-/hitting my head and :-/buysome boas :-/.I want one of each ;Dand since each is differant(in their own way) ;DI want them all :-Xplease :P

Bushbaby
07-04-2004, 11:59 PM
I have no idea how I missed those first pics on the first page, but that baby you were holding in your hand.... ROCKS!! ::) ::) ::) I can't wait for my boas to start showing signs of being gravid!! I hope I get some awesome babies, but I doubt any will look as stunning as those of yours. AWESOME!! :'(

The_Boaphile
07-11-2004, 08:40 AM
More babies:

Washington Bloodline female bred by a Hypo gave birth this morning. June 11, 2004 beginning at 9:40 AM and concluding at 10:32 AM. Looks like about 25 new kids.

sudden
07-11-2004, 12:32 PM
man what a beauties ::)

The_Boaphile
07-13-2004, 05:33 AM
I just cleaned up the remnant goo and counted the little Rug Rats. 26 babies. No slugs this time. 10 of them Hypos including some REALLY unBOAlievable kids! Now I have to wait for eight days for them to shed! This is going to be rough!

SAHWEEET!!!

Sojourn
07-13-2004, 02:59 PM
WOW, Jeff! I can't wait to see some of those kiddos after they shed! ;D

Bushbaby
07-13-2004, 10:40 PM
Congrats on 26 babies!!! I hope it somehow makes up for your loss on the previous Boa. They really look stunning. (I hate the cleaning up the goo part!!)

The_Boaphile
07-14-2004, 03:12 AM
July 14, 2004 at 6:00 AM this is what I found. Peters Bloodline babies. Looks like about half a litter. Around 15 babies and a mess of slugs. Slugs are really yucky!

The_Boaphile
07-14-2004, 06:24 AM
Thankfully, the 9' Momma did not try to kill me. She wasn't aggressive at all actually. Quite a relief!

Jeff

The_Boaphile
07-15-2004, 02:57 PM
July 15, 2004 at 5:45 PM while feeding the big stuff look what I came across:

The_Boaphile
07-15-2004, 02:57 PM
More

The_Boaphile
07-15-2004, 02:58 PM
More:

The_Boaphile
07-15-2004, 02:59 PM
More:

The_Boaphile
07-15-2004, 03:00 PM
You can't have too many "Fine Line" Boas!

I am really pumped about these babies! Looks like around 25 of the little fellas and around 5 slugs.

SAHWEEET!!!

Sojourn
07-15-2004, 03:25 PM
Congrats Dr. Ronne!!! Those sure are some beatiful messes you got there.... :'(

JChurch
07-16-2004, 12:12 AM
wow, news like that is hard to hear. best of luck jeff.

The_Boaphile
07-16-2004, 06:10 AM
Do you all have any idea what I am going to make with these Babies from this last litter?

Do ya huh?

I am weak in the knees thinking about what will ultimately come from these kids!

Care to guess?

I'll give you several hints:

I have been working on making some animals to make animals like an animal I saw in Daytona in 2001. This is the first success making these though I have tried for the last three years and only produced three litters of slugs before this GLORIOUS litter here.

I'll give you another hint:

I saw a fellow offer $5000 to a woman walking around with an animal that was so outrageous it was just mind blowing. She would not sell it and nor would I had I owned it. This is what I am going to make with these babies!

Care to venture a little guess?

Good luck!

Jeff

CCS
07-16-2004, 07:19 AM
I remember you posting a pic of this animal I believe, a fineline anerytheristic. It was an amazing animal.

Chris

The_Boaphile
07-16-2004, 08:26 AM
You are correct! The Anerythristic that I saw in Daytona in 2001 has inspired this breeding. She is shown below at Daytona in 2002. She was sold for HUGE bucks in Daytona that year to somebody else. This animal had kinks in the tail and an under bite. Great contrast though as you can see from the picture shown here where she was on display for sale. In 2001 there were a ton of Boa people surrounding this woman trying to buy that Boa from her when it was a little baby. One fellow offered her $5000 for it which she turned down.

Last Spring I found out about another fellow who had a sibling to that female! She did not have an under bite and no kinks in her tail either! I was very fortunate to be able to work out a trade deal for her. She does not have the same contrast but is easily the most White Boa in the place. I will put up her picture in the next post.

The_Boaphile
07-16-2004, 08:27 AM
This is her sister which I have now:

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/whiteanery.jpg

jbabel
07-16-2004, 08:42 AM
That girl is awsome... I really like anerys, and that is one of the nicest ones that I have seen... ::) ::) ::)

The_Boaphile
07-17-2004, 10:37 AM
Here she is. The Boa with the awesome scale separation. She is squishy fat with a load of babies. She still looks horrible compared with her normal vibrant color. She is the mother of the best Scarlet Hypos we made last year. She was once again bred by a great male Pastel to make what will hopefully be at least as nice Scarlet Hypos again. For some reason it is really hard to photograph the thickness differential of a Boa when gravid without taking them out of the cage. You just can't see the enormity of the back half compared to the front half without taking the animal out of the cage. I don't handle gravid females at all so this is the best I could do.

The_Boaphile
07-17-2004, 10:40 AM
Here is a slightly lower shot of her. She is locked and loaded sitting right on the heat ready to fire out those babies anytime. It is hard to see but before a female gives birth she will be on the move holding the end of her tail kinked as if to keep anything from coming out too early. She is like this now although it is hard to see the tail end of her exactly. Her tail is kinked hard and she has been in this particular position for several hours. It could be any time now...

Of course she will not have them until she is good and ready regardless how ready or anxious I am.

The_Boaphile
07-17-2004, 10:43 AM
Speaking of being ready... I have another Fine Line female that I have been saying could go any time now for nearly two weeks. The one that gave birth a couple days ago was not due till a little more than a week after this one and yet she is still holding out on me. This is a Fine Line to Fine Line breeding. I can't wait to see these kids!

Time will tell right Dr. "G"!

goofykid87
07-17-2004, 05:10 PM
tell them both to hurry up, cause we wanna see 'em too :'(

DBacker65
07-18-2004, 09:26 AM
Born June 12, 2004:

Pink "Sears" bloodline Hogg Island Boas:

Very Nice Jeff, when will these babies be available? I have to have one!!!!

The_Boaphile
07-18-2004, 07:44 PM
At 3:30 PM July 18, 2004:

Looks like I caught just the last three coming out:

The_Boaphile
07-18-2004, 07:46 PM
No more scale separation!

I can't walk after looking at these babies... I was not at all expecting what I found.

I love genetic traits!

Bushbaby
07-18-2004, 10:41 PM
Some of those look ssweet!! When can we geta closer look?? By the way, CONGRATS!!!! It's awesome!!! What was the initial amount of babies born??

Unas-TheSlayer
07-19-2004, 07:10 AM
I can't walk after looking at these babies... I was not at all expecting what I found.


Awesome! I wonder what it is you found that you werent expecting... ahhhgggg ... Jeff likes to keep us in suspense :'(.

Congrats.

The_Boaphile
07-19-2004, 12:23 PM
MOre on those babies to come soon. Believe me. YOu will see them soon and they will boggle the mind and I mean BOGGLE!

The_Boaphile
07-19-2004, 12:32 PM
Just checked this Hogg at 2:35 PM on July 19, 2004 and this is what I found:

The_Boaphile
07-19-2004, 12:33 PM
More ultra pink Hoggs!

The_Boaphile
07-19-2004, 12:35 PM
So I'm on the phone with Bill Parks and I tell Bill I just found that litter of Hoggs when I walk around the corner and check my "Sharon Moore" bloodline Colombian that had been bred by a DuBay Bloodline Pastel and this is what I found there!

The_Boaphile
07-19-2004, 12:36 PM
More:

The_Boaphile
07-19-2004, 12:37 PM
I love getting these pictures!

The_Boaphile
07-19-2004, 12:38 PM
Last shot for now. That's three litters in 24 hours. That's a first for me. Probably not the most babies I have had in 24 hours but the most litters for sure. I did have one litter of 64 babies in 1992 so that will be tough to break for a one day baby record for me. I think the three litters in the last 24 hours total something just under 60 new Boas.

Unas-TheSlayer
07-19-2004, 02:38 PM
Woohoo!! Dubay pastels! I can see they are going to be really nice even in their sacs. Congrats again : :P :P

The_Boaphile
07-19-2004, 03:26 PM
I am going to show one baby right now from the female with the scale separation but only one for now:

Unas-TheSlayer
07-19-2004, 05:58 PM
that hypo is SHOCKING :'(

Bushbaby
07-19-2004, 10:47 PM
OMG!!!! That is just AWESOME!!! I am SO envious of you!!!

LordZeal
07-20-2004, 06:12 AM
You dirty TEASE!! ;)

The_Boaphile
07-20-2004, 07:06 AM
That is my job.

A little shot of a couple of the not so normal normals:

You should see the "Hypos"!

goofykid87
07-20-2004, 07:15 AM
::) :( :'(
holy crap thats amazing, congrats!

bcijoe
07-21-2004, 05:39 AM
MORE PEARLESCENTS AND 'ELECTRO SHOCK YO MAMA' BOAS !!!

How were these parents related to the pair that produced the electo, and then the pearlescents?

The_Boaphile
07-21-2004, 06:23 AM
The "Elecro-shock" baby was completely unrelated to the bloodline that produced the original Pearlescent male. The Electro-shock male was an Honest John X TJ bloodline baby. I acquired both of these animals as adults and they were not related to the animals I already owned.

The original Pearlescent male was produced using a female I had produced in 1989 bred with an F1 Orange Tail Hypo male. This male was produced by the too little known Father of all Hypos, Dr. David Hardy from Arizona. This Pearlescent male was the only one like him in a litter of about 30 babies that included around 12 hypos. The mother of this litter of babies you are referring to in your guess, Dr. BciJoe, is a sister of that original Pearlescent male. Last year she bred a male that is a grandson of the original Pearlescent male's mother and produced the normal patterned "Scarlet Hypos". This year she bred another male who is a brother of last year's breeder male. He of course is also a grandson of the original Pearlescent Male's mother. The male used this year and as I just wrote brother of last year's breeder, is also a really nice Pastel but has nothing in his pattern to hint that anything other than just nice Hypos would be produced. Normal Hypos? Not this time! Normal normals? Not really!

The parents of the original Pearlescent male had something genetically that produced that Pearlescent male. This new wild Morph when bred to the Monster Tail female, who is also completely unrelated to him, proved that the Pearlescent thing going on in this male was genetic and made the wild babies we have all seen from last year. The fact that something wild happened again should not have caught me by such surprise but it did! I sure am glad the brother that bred her last year was a bum this year which forced me to use his lesser attractive brother!

Unas-TheSlayer
07-21-2004, 09:09 AM
Ahhh. So its not electroshock eh... Pearlescent bloodlines. Do you have any pics of the male?

The_Boaphile
08-02-2004, 04:46 PM
Here is one of the little guys from the litter I have been holding out on everyone...

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/can-you-believe-this.jpg

The_Boaphile
08-02-2004, 04:51 PM
The original Pearlescent male died last year about two weeks after he proved himself to be co-dominant or dominant after breeding the Monster Tail Female. His siblings, though none of them showed any aberrancy, still carry some of the same genes he carried. What happened shocked me beyond words. I was not expecting it at all. I will have all the details soon. Suffice it to say, I am a very happy camper that I keep soooooo many of my babies!

The_Boaphile
08-02-2004, 05:13 PM
A feast for the eyes:

John_Lokken
08-02-2004, 07:06 PM
Congrats Jeff!! They look great!!
John

Killer
08-04-2004, 12:57 AM
Hey Jeff thats sweet, I'm going to need one of those for my two reversed striped Boas I got earlier in the year. Save me one. please

http://s93300774.onlinehome.us/albums/snakes/IMG_0995.sized.jpg

Here is the female "Buffy"
http://s93300774.onlinehome.us/albums/snakes/IMG_1098.sized.jpg

And the male "Zed"
http://s93300774.onlinehome.us/albums/snakes/IMG_1423.sized.jpg

It sure would be nice to get an unrelated pair for these two I already got. I sure hope you don't keep them all.

Ken

Bushbaby
08-04-2004, 04:18 AM
I am soooo jealous!!!! It's just not fair!! Those are sweet looking Boas!!!! Congrats!! Great pics too!!!

jrice
08-04-2004, 10:16 AM
Jeff, are you going to take the fineline anery's to the pearlescents to produce nearly paternless ghosts? ;D

reidness
08-04-2004, 02:23 PM
Jeff remember when president clinton let people pay to sleep at the White House, i think you should do the same thing! for a certain fee people could sleep in your basement next to your racks and cages on a cot or in a pile of aspen! for those that didnt have all the cash they could help around the house, mow lawns,feed snakes. dry cleaning runs? sound good? reid

The_Boaphile
08-04-2004, 02:53 PM
That's a great idea Reidness! Let's see the Clinton's charged people $100,000 to sleep in the White House. I guess now for the first time ever I'll agree with the Clinton administration on anything... let's stick with the $100,000 fee!

Come on up Dr. Reidness! I can really use the extra cash!

Thanks for the great idea!

Jeff

goofykid87
08-04-2004, 03:34 PM
i dunno jeff...you'd have to put cameras in there...and frisk them as they leave to make sure that they dont take any of those scarlette hypos or pastel albinos ;D

Bushbaby
08-04-2004, 10:39 PM
That's a great idea Reidness! Let's see the Clinton's charged people $100,000 to sleep in the White House. I guess now for the first time ever I'll agree with the Clinton administration on anything... let's stick with the $100,000 fee!

Come on up Dr. Reidness! I can really use the extra cash!

Thanks for the great idea!

Jeff


Geez, just when I'm a little short on cash!!! Hows bout I come clean snake cages, feed, and generally take care of all your snakes for a month, and then I get to sleep over one night??? Do we have a deal??? I'll resign today and be there in a months time!!! ;D ;D

The_Boaphile
08-08-2004, 08:39 AM
June 12, 2005 Hoggs Born:

http://www.theboaforum.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=boapics1;action=display;num=1088295173;start=0

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/hoggs6-26.jpg

This is a really nice pink Hogg from this litter:

The_Boaphile
08-08-2004, 08:39 AM
June 25, 2004 TJ Hypos Born:

http://www.theboaforum.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=boapics1;action=display;num=1088295173;start=0

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/tjhypos6-26.jpg

This is a super pink Hypo from that litter:

The_Boaphile
08-08-2004, 08:40 AM
June 26, 2004 Anerythristics including aberrant animals more so than their slightly aberrant Father:

http://www.theboaforum.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=boapics1;action=display;num=1088295173;start=0

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/ivorylitter6-26.jpg

Here was the little jiggly fellow before he had broken out of his birth sac:

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/3upclose6-26.jpg

This photo of the little Jiggly Het for Anerythristic was taken this morning after a meal.

We will be making some aberrant Anerythristics some time in the future. One of the long term projects we have been working on for some time and hope to advance in the years to come. Did you ever notice how nearly every Anerythristic you see has blocky wide saddles? I want to make Anerythristics that break that tradition going for aberrant and of course super super thin patterns as well. More on that shortly.

The_Boaphile
08-08-2004, 08:41 AM
On July 15, 2004 one of our Fine Line females produced the first Fine Line het for Anerythristic produced:

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/fineline-7-15-04-birth3.jpg

Another shot of the wonderful birth!

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/fineline-7-15-04-birth4.jpg

We wish to make lots of Anerythristics just like the two shown below:

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/snowflake.jpg

We own her sister shown below:

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/whiteanery.jpg

This is the best Fine Line het produced in this litter:

The_Boaphile
08-08-2004, 08:41 AM
Here is a little runt male from the same litter:

The_Boaphile
08-08-2004, 08:42 AM
July 11, 2004 one of our Washington bloodline females gives birth to Hypos:

http://www.theboaforum.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=boapics1;action=display;num=1088295173;start=15

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/wash-hypos-7-11-04.jpg

This baby is one of those Hypos:

The_Boaphile
08-08-2004, 08:43 AM
On July 13, 2004 one of our Peters bloodline females gave birth so some super SAHWEEET Pastels and tons of slugs:

http://www.theboaforum.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=boapics1;action=display;num=1088295173;start=30

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/peters7-13-04.jpg

Here is one of those babies:

The_Boaphile
08-08-2004, 08:43 AM
Here is another one of these superb Pastels:

The_Boaphile
08-08-2004, 08:44 AM
This animal made the most important babies we have ever produced ever!

This same female produced a litter last year. She actually made the very first litter of Scarlet Hypos we had. None of the babies had these aberrancies. None-Nadda-Zip. This year she was bred by the brother of the male that bred her last year and... holy moly Rocky!

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/ready2-7-17-04.jpg

Another shot of the same animal before giving birth:

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/ready7-17-04.jpg

Here she is giving birth for the second time in two years!

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/again3.jpg

Here she is after giving birth about two weeks ago:

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/again4.jpg

This is one of her babies:

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/mine.jpg

This is a tail shot of two of the non-hypos in the litter:

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/again-tails.jpg

This is one of the Pearlescent Hypos she produced:

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/can-you-believe-this.jpg

This is a mess of her babies after shedding:

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/can-you-believe-this-2.jpg


This is one of the babies after her first meal:

The_Boaphile
08-08-2004, 08:52 AM
This is one of the "normal" babies from the same litter:

The_Boaphile
08-08-2004, 09:03 AM
Lest anyone assume the aberrancies that we are getting in our now two litters of Pearlescent animals are related to the Hypo gene, know this. The Hypo gene certainly exaggerates aberrancies. There is no question about that. However, the same aberrancies are found in the "normals" from both of these litters. This aberrancy is inherited by some of the Hypos as well as some of the "normals" in both litters. The Great Great Grandmother and Great Great Grandfather of these animals are Big Momma and Big Daddy who some of you might recognize as the first pair of Boas I ever bred, and that first litter being produced on February 17, 1986. This is a Morph and Mutation that first appeared here in 2000 and has now cropped again in 2004 from parents that did not show the trait exactly as occurred the first time we produced the single original Pearlescent male. It was proven last year to be inherited in a co-dominant fashion last year when I bred the original Pearlescent male to the Monster Tail Colombian female and she produced the most outrageous litter of babies I had to that date.

The aberrancies express themselves in a huge range of ways sometimes causing "jiggly" patterns, inverse tail striping, an odd separation or redefinment separating the saddles on the back from the side pattern similar to what is seen in at least one of the other morphs out there. The sky is the absolute limit on these puppies and we can't wait to see what happens when we in fact breed Pearlescent to Pearlescent hopefully producing some of those babies in 2006. We anticipate some of these inverse tail stripe animals to come out fully striped. Time will tell exactly what happens but because of the fact that the aberrancies are shown in the such a wide range of degrees and a number of different ways, we are confident that when two animals that show these aberrancies are bred together, that there will be an accumulative effect or a "Super" version of the Pearlescent Boa!

bcijoe
08-08-2004, 09:39 AM
blah blah blah..

SO WHEN DO I GET A PAIR IS WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW!?!?!?!?! LOL j/k

Great pics Jeff and great story behind these jewels..

Hope you bring atleast one of these to Daytona so we can really drool !! Better have some tissues handy for us!

Hey, I found a couple hundred grand in Monopoly money.. will that work?
I already tried reserving a flight out there but there not taking the monopoly money thing too well... shucks.

Well, when they do recognize Boa Breeding as a true profession, your place would be the best for internship!

Take care, Joe

The_Boaphile
08-08-2004, 09:51 AM
I am not sure if I mentioned this anywhere before or not but...

The Mother of the most recent litter of Pearlescent Boas is one of the sisters and a liter mate of the original Pearlescent male.

Here is the original Pearlescent Boa shown here as a new born:

http://www.theboaphile.com/screamers.jpg

Many will remember that the original Pearlescent male died last year about two weeks after he proved his mutation to be inheritable in a co-dominant fashion. The male that produced the most recent litter of Pearlescent Boas is her nephew AND of course the nephew of the original Pearlescent male as well.

The mind wonders at who we should use to breed who to hopefully make more of these lovely little creatures in the future...

John_Lokken
08-08-2004, 10:14 AM
They look great Jeff.
I can't wait to breed the brother of the Pearlescent male that I have to my Lucy Pastel. She will have this year off. But, next year........I hope to have some of those babies as well. We'll see if my boy has the "genes" in him. :-[ :-[ :P ::) ??? ??? ??? 8) :o >:( ;D :D ;) :) (If you can't tell..........My daughter loves the happy faces on your site.)
John

The_Boaphile
08-08-2004, 04:25 PM
Several points:

A. I am not aware of any proven genetic inverse tail striping in Boas. They seem to occur sporadically here and there and had not been reproducible until my original Pearlescent male did so in 2003. There are several individual animals out there that appear to be fully inverse striped but to date none of them have been proven to be carrying a genetic heritable trait. The Pearlescent does and time will tell if we will be able to make a fully inverse striped animal or not. I believe we will and certainly hope we will. There are very few dominant traits out there and most seem to be co-dominant and we hope the Pearlescent proves to be co-dominant as well.

B. Pairs? I am afraid unless someone else pops out some of these Pearlescent babies out there, the only one with "pairs" of these animals will be me for a while. I am entertaining selling a female or two this year but will not be offering any males until 2005 at the soonest.

C. I do not believe any single animal can "pop" out a Pearlescent Boa unless one of two qualifications is met:

1. First and obviously if one of the parents is a Pearlescent then about half the offspring should also be Pearlescent Boas.

2. Second, if the parents do not express nor show any of the Pearlescent characteristics, I believe both will have to contribute just the right combination of genes to make this happen. I believe some portion of genes controls the aberrant patterns and another separate gene allows this to happen. In other words if one gene is turned on to allow the aberrant pattern to occur but the genes for the aberrant pattern are not there, nothing will be expressed. By the same token if the genes for the aberrant patterns are present but the gene that allows this to occur is not turned on or present, nothing will be expressed. It is only the right combination of genes that will allow this mutation to express itself. Then once the characteristics have been expressed, about half the offspring produced express these Pearlescent abnormalities. This could very well be exactly the same way some other mutations occur.

D. Yea, most places don't take Monopoly Money. It's the pits but true Dr. Rollo.

E. By the way Dr. Lokken. It is possible you know. Your Lucy Pastel female that just made those unBOAlievable Pastels you had the other day had a Grandfather named "Jose". The Pearlescent Boas in this most recent litter's Great Grandfather was also Jose and the original Pearlescent male's Grandfather was Jose both through the female "Momma Pearl". There is no way to know exactly where the genes originally came from to make all this happen. The farther removed from the animals that we know carry the trait are, the less the chance that those animals might carry just the right genes. To further clarify; In 1989 the year before "Lucy" started the Lucy Bloodline with Jose, Jose bred "Big Baby". Big Baby was a female produced in the first litter I had born in 1986 and she along with Jose made "Momma Pearl". Momma Pearl is the Mother of the original Pearlescent male. A sister of the Pearlescent male produced the second litter of Pearlescent babies. The male that bred her was one of "Momma Pearl's" grandsons from her first litter born in 1995. It all seems to come back around for positive sure to "Momma Pearl". Whether or not this originally came from Jose is possible but right now all we know is the Orange Tail Hypo male that bred "Momma Pearl" and produced the original Pearlescent male and some of her babies from that and a previous breeding have the good stuff. Of course the visual Pearlescents have it too but I am talking about the unknowns and the hoped for animals at this point in time.

It is going to be great fun to watch what happens in the future and to breed this with that and try to have this genetic lightning strike again and again. Care to join me in my quest?

John_Lokken
08-08-2004, 04:34 PM
Great added clarification!! Thanks Jeff. If I am lucky enough.....We will see what happens when my hypo pastel, that I got from you, makes when bred with my Lucy female that I got from you as well. This really is part of the fun of all this. I love seeing what happens when you breed one animal to another. The possibilities are endless!! Hopefully mother nature will be on my side again. :)
John

Killer
08-09-2004, 10:55 PM
So when are we going to stop seeing pictures of all these in the forums and see some price tags next to them in the Boaphile section?

Killer Ken

Bushbaby
08-09-2004, 11:35 PM
You have made me very, very depressed!!! Do you have any idea how I wish I could have some stunning Boas like that!!! But alas, in SA they are a bit slow!!! Awesome babies, Awesome pics, just absolutely, suicidally Awesome!!! :'(

The_Boaphile
08-11-2004, 09:08 AM
Looks like another two litter day. August 11, 2004.

Six Albinos and a mess of 66% possible hets. THe first picture the camera lens got fogged up instantly:

The_Boaphile
08-11-2004, 09:10 AM
A better picture:

The_Boaphile
08-11-2004, 09:12 AM
Second litter just born within the past hour. These babies are Lucy Bloodline Pastel het for ALbino. THeir Daddy is an ALbino! BOrn today August 11, 2004!

Looks like about half babies and half slugs. Slugs are so yucky!

John_Lokken
08-11-2004, 05:00 PM
Lucy bloodline is one of my favorite lines you have. *And, the Monstertail of course*
Those will be some pink albinos with that Lucy blood in them.
Congrats Jeff!!!

P.S. You have mail!! :)
John

ChunkyMunky
08-11-2004, 09:46 PM
HOLY SMOKES JEFF!  Very nice! Both are AWESOME littlers.  I cant wait till my 421D gets here!

The_Boaphile
08-24-2004, 04:12 PM
One of my favorite Pastels het for Albino that came from the most recent litter posted above. I love the bog blocky saddles. She is so washed out and a really beautiful pink wash over the entire animal. One of my favorite babies of the year! She was born August 11, 2004. She almost has a light lavender color.

The_Boaphile
08-24-2004, 04:14 PM
Here is another one of my favorite babies. A really pink Pastel produced by a Peter's bloodline Pastel female bred to one of the top three male Pastels that I own.

The_Boaphile
08-24-2004, 04:15 PM
Here is another one of those Pastels:

The_Boaphile
08-24-2004, 04:16 PM
And a final one for now from that litter:

The_Boaphile
08-24-2004, 04:17 PM
How about a "normal" Pearlescent from the litter we just had a little over a month ago now?

The_Boaphile
08-24-2004, 04:17 PM
While he is really interesting this female is just mind blowing!

The_Boaphile
08-24-2004, 04:19 PM
And how about one more female to tempt your taste?

I guess it is obvious I am the proud Papa huh?

The_Boaphile
08-24-2004, 04:49 PM
Another litter born this morning by the way. A TJ X TJ breeding this time. These TJ animals are siblings of the "Electro Shock" animal many of you may be familiar with so these are nephews and nieces of that outrageous animal. Looks like nine babies here and about 12 slugs unfortunately. I would much rather have had a full litter of babies obviously but you take what you get. The Mother is well and ready for a rat which she will get tomorrow. Looks like several of these kids have some wild pattern reminiscent of their late "Uncle Electro". That is what I was shooting for you know. Well that and the ever elusive Lusistic (sp?) babies. One day perhaps... one day.

Bad photo I know. This cage is low to the floor and she had them way back there in an 11.5" tall cage.

coldjoe
08-24-2004, 04:54 PM
TEXTIn one word !!WOW!! :'( Those boa's are awesome Jeff. :'(

tattooed_rose
08-24-2004, 11:00 PM
when can we expect to see these on the available page?

The_Boaphile
08-29-2004, 08:40 AM
Here is one of the "Moore/DuBabies" we produced about a month back. Not bad huh?

The_Boaphile
08-29-2004, 09:09 AM
and another

Randy_T.
08-29-2004, 03:18 PM
How many litters have you popped out so far this year? And how many more potential gravids are you waiting on?

The_Boaphile
08-30-2004, 03:55 AM
I don't know how many litters we have produced so far. We have photographed and posted pictures from most of them here on this thread. I still have three females gravid. One het that was bred by a het that is making a mess of her cage right now looking for a spot to have those fresh puppies. Another het that will have a litter full of slugs I am guessing around September 10. The last one is a huge orange 66% possible het that was bred by an albino. She is due right now and has been on the move but no pre birth stool yet. I am hoping for half a litter of babies and half a litter of slugs but don't know for sure. Of course I also hope she proves to be a het but time will tell. That's it. I am starting to introduce males on Wednesday and Thursday this week! I can't wait for this year's new kids!

Here is a pic of one of the best Monster Tail siblings from last year. This is not a Hypo but she is still a beast!

Randy_T.
08-30-2004, 07:32 AM
I really like the looks of the monstertails.. They seem to have such a dark rich coloring to them..

The_Boaphile
08-31-2004, 04:30 AM
This litter has about 6 Albinos. I counted six Albino heads in the litter but there could be another hiding someplace. About 25 babies total and two slugs I think. It was a het to het breeding this time. This is the last litter I will ever have born in a melamine cage! I am replacing the last of the melamine shortly. It has taken a while to replace all the melamine but we are just about there. The next cages I put in their place will finally be sixteen six foot cages using two 322D cages for each with expandable ends. These will all be for my REALLY big girls. The Monsters! The pigs!

Only two gravid females left. One that almost assuredly will have all slugs but the other could give me some babies. I sure hope so. She is a Pastel that is also 66% Possible het that I have been trying to get a good litter from for years. I bred an Albino to her this year. We shall see...

The_Boaphile
08-31-2004, 04:41 AM
I thought I'd show off a couple of the years earlier babies too:

This is one of the Hogg Island Babies from the very first litter born this year:

The_Boaphile
08-31-2004, 04:43 AM
This one may be my favorite baby of the year! She is a Lucy baby that also happens to be het for Albino. Isn't she adorable?

John_Lokken
08-31-2004, 05:23 AM
That would be my favorite baby as well!! Congrats Jeff. They look great!!!
John

JChurch
09-01-2004, 05:16 AM
Great looking baby Jeff. I love the colors. And being het for albino......ya gotta love that :P

coldjoe
09-04-2004, 07:13 AM
She's a beaut Jeff, I just love those PINK babies! ;D

Bushbaby
09-06-2004, 12:15 AM
That last baby is just awesome!! ::) Congrats on such a lovely bunch of Boas! I'm invious!! :-X :-X :'(

The_Boaphile
09-11-2004, 03:37 PM
I have a new favorite baby of the year. She is from the TJ Pastel to TJ Pastel breeding. She had a huge belly full of yolk and I have been very worried about her. She still has not absorbed all the yolk and I am hoping she is able to shed that first skin soon. Her siblings have already shed. I can't wait to show her off soon!

The_Boaphile
10-26-2004, 04:37 PM
She finally shed. The TJ baby that is I referred to in my last previous post. She has been eating but had not shed that first skin. She looks muddy in this picture but she can be almost as light as the newspaper she is resting upon when she wants to. She was so small I was worried about her, but she seems to be doing very well now.

Isn't she cute?

ChunkyMunky
10-28-2004, 02:25 AM
Yea, definately an awesome boa Jeff. Congrats, and best of luck with her. I can believe how light she is! Take care.

Dan

DBacker65
10-28-2004, 04:17 PM
Born June 12, 2004:

Pink "Sears" bloodline Hogg Island Boas:
Very nice Jeff, any females still 4 sale?

The_Boaphile
12-10-2004, 03:35 PM
I thought I would post a couple updated shots:

Behold a "Fine Line"! She is a female and het for Anerythristic. Many of you know I worked long and hard to get some of these kids. I only wish I had been able to make a male this nice!

Someday we are going to make more just like the Anerythrstic shown below using the hets we have made here:

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/whiteanery.jpg

The_Boaphile
12-10-2004, 03:36 PM
Now a few kids from the most recent "Pearlescent" litter born this year:

Mr. Jiggly!

Here is a picture taken of him before he drew his first breath!

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/mine.jpg

and here he is today:

The_Boaphile
12-10-2004, 03:38 PM
A REALLY red baby from the Pearlescent litter. She is a beauty.

The_Boaphile
12-10-2004, 03:39 PM
This is a shot of one of the other females.

The_Boaphile
12-10-2004, 03:39 PM
Another shot of the same female.

The_Boaphile
12-10-2004, 03:41 PM
Here is another female.

The_Boaphile
12-10-2004, 03:44 PM
Here is a shot of their Uncle at about 2 weeks of age.

http://www.theboaphile.com/screamers.jpg

Here is a second shot of the same female shown in the previous post.

The_Boaphile
12-10-2004, 03:47 PM
and here is the litter of Washington Hypos that were born and one of the Washington Hypo babies today!

http://www.theboaforum.com/forumpics/wash-hypos-7-11-04.jpg

John_Lokken
12-11-2004, 06:48 AM
WHoa MOMMA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeff those pearls looks amazing!!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::)
I am planning to breed my Hypo Pastel male with my Pastel female in hopes for some babies that turn out like THAT!! :)
Keep posting those pics.
John

Killer
12-12-2004, 11:55 PM
Those pics are all very great and those are some amazing boas, but when are any of them going to be available to purchase??  I waited as long as possible and it was hard holding out as long as I did, I know you got some fascinating babies this year. Needless to say my 15K limit on my credit card has been reached already, What can I say I'm addicted. It was burning a hole in my wallet and I had to buy me some boas. I only wish it could of been spent on a few of your boas.  lol, oh well I got a few raxxs at least.

Boamatic
12-14-2004, 03:48 AM
AMAZING Boas Jeff... I am jealous! lol... Hope to see some of those in Daytona!!!

The_Boaphile
12-14-2004, 05:37 AM
I AM going to get the babies posted over this Christmas break! We have been working 7 days a week to try to stay on top of the cage/rack orders here and by next week, we should be in pretty good shape order/schedule wise. In addition, my Son comes home from College on Friday so I will be able to work him again like a dog. He has got to earn that college tuition we are constantly sending down to Florida for him.

Lots of babies and more babies and more babies... I have about 30 yearling Peruvians too that may surprise some folks. Anyhow I can't wait to start posting the kids and taking those baby orders and shipping the kids all over the place!

The_Boaphile
12-14-2004, 05:39 AM
By the way... thanks for all the KUDOS! It's all great fun!

Here is a Pastel female. A pretty stinking nice Pastel at that. Not the best but one of the best Pastels het for Albino you will ever come across!

Boamatic
12-14-2004, 08:31 AM
That is indeed a very nice pastel!

goofykid87
12-14-2004, 09:37 AM
SWEET! i cant wait to see 'em all

The_Boaphile
12-16-2004, 03:49 PM
How about a little Scarlet Hypo from last year?

THis little boy was white showing no color when he was born. I had him listed at $5000 and thankfully nobody bought him. I only wish I had gotten him big enough to breed this year. I will have him big enough next year though!

The_Boaphile
12-16-2004, 03:50 PM
I just took a couple more photos of a couple of my favorite Pastels from this year:

The_Boaphile
12-16-2004, 03:51 PM
What's not to like right?

John_Lokken
12-18-2004, 12:49 PM
Love those pastels!!
That Scarlet Hypo RULES!!
John

The_Boaphile
01-04-2005, 02:17 PM
One of the Scarlet Hypos from 2004. Does she have enough red for you?

The_Boaphile
01-04-2005, 02:18 PM
Two shots of a Pearlescent female.

First shot she is mad.

The_Boaphile
01-04-2005, 02:19 PM
Second shot. She settled down a little bit...

The_Boaphile
01-04-2005, 02:21 PM
This one is her sister. She is a not so normal looking normal from the same litter. The color is just unBOAlievable!

Unas-TheSlayer
01-04-2005, 04:20 PM
Wow ...

That pearlescant is absolutely stunning. The "not so normal" normal has some downright crazy coloration. Very nice. I cant wait to see what you put up for sale this season.

John_Lokken
01-04-2005, 04:27 PM
Man, those are great looking! Just amazing Jeff!!! :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
John

denny_rimes
01-04-2005, 04:37 PM
Do you wanna know why she's mad, Jeff. I'd be happy to tell you.

She's mad because its just too cold for her where you live and she wants to come down South to the warm weather to live with me. 8)

What a pair of beautiful boas. You might want to be careful calling the other one "normal" or she just might get mad at you too! ;D

Denny

Randy_T.
01-04-2005, 05:29 PM
I prefer the second one, that color is awesome.. Both beauties though.

The_Boaphile
01-10-2005, 02:54 PM
For anyone who is interested. This is the Father of the Pearlescent babies born in 2004. See anything special about him? I didn't either. Great babies though!

Sojourn
01-10-2005, 03:06 PM
Unboalievable for sure! That "not so normal" look like a scarlet hypo to me. :'(

Boamatic
01-14-2005, 08:05 AM
Man oh man... Some intese boas you got... I got to get me some like that in the future... Absolutely dripping in color... What kind of paint did you dip them in before the photos?!? lol...

The_Boaphile
01-18-2005, 07:29 AM
Playing a bit with the camera

Boamatic
01-18-2005, 12:10 PM
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01-29-2005, 04:08 PM
Hey Jeff, are you getting out of breeding to do the cages full time?
The reason I ask is because you don't seem too interested in selling them..

stevo
01-29-2005, 05:52 PM
Just keep saving your money like the rest of us cause I think the babies will be here shortly :P And I'm sure it will be worth the wait :'( Just think about it, if you had those babies would you want to part with them? Me either!!!!!

The_Boaphile
02-01-2005, 10:29 AM
I have takers for this one but I just can't get used to the idea of her living anywhere but here. I am so selfish!

Boamatic
02-01-2005, 12:32 PM
Stop tourchering me with these photos... BAH... Must have the SMOKIN' boas! ::) She is one of a kind Jeff :)

coldjoe
02-08-2005, 09:41 AM
WOW ::) Look at that pink and those colors ::) I bet she way better than the camera can pick up too :'( :'(

02-13-2005, 01:23 AM
Hey Jeff,
when are we going to see some pastel, hypo, albinos?
Those babies could make sunglows look plain! Imagine the jing you'd make off those...

The_Boaphile
08-06-2005, 01:51 PM
This fellow was born to the litter of Pearlescents we had born in 2004. His name is "Mr. Jiggly". Do you think I can get him to breed this coming season? He is slightly over 3' long right now. What do you think?

denny_rimes
08-06-2005, 02:23 PM
I think that the "J" word fits him perfectly! Maybe he'll sire a litter of Jiggly Pearlescents this year!!

Denny ;D

boxingboa
08-06-2005, 02:26 PM
Me O My.I sure hope he breeds for you this upcoming season.He is red hot smoking.

Jarylo
08-08-2005, 08:55 AM
I don't know, with a little gentle encouragement and the right sheila I am sure he'll be willing... ;D.

~Jay