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The_Boaphile
03-04-2003, 04:45 AM
Military pay article:

On 12 Nov, Ms Cindy Williams (from Laverne and Shirley TV show) wrote a piece for the Washington Times, denouncing the pay raise(s) coming servicemembers' way this year – citing that the stated 13% wage was more than they deserve.

A young airman from Hill AFB responds to her article below. He ought to get a bonus for this!

"Ms Williams:

I just had the pleasure of reading your column, "Our GIs earn enough" and I am a bit confused. Frankly, I'm wondering where this vaunted overpayment is going, because as far as I can tell, it disappears every month between DFAS (The Defense Finance and Accounting Service) and my bank account. Checking my latest leave and earnings statement (LES), I see that I make $1,117.80 before taxes. After taxes, I take home $874.20. When I run that through Windows' Calculator, I come up with an annual salary of $13,413.60 before taxes, and $10,490.40 after.

I work in the Air Force Network Control Center (AFNCC), where I am part of the team responsible for the administration of a 5,000-host computer network. I am involved with infrastructure segments, specifically with Cisco Systems equipment. A quick check under jobs for Network Technicians in the Washington, D.C. area reveals a position in my career field, requiring three years experience with my job. Amazingly, this job does NOT pay $13,413.60 a year, nor does it pay less than this. No, this job is being offered at $70,000 to $80,000 per annum. I'm sure you can draw the obvious conclusions.
Also, you tout increases to Basic Allowance for Housing and Basic Allowance for Subsistence (housing and food allowances, respectively) as being a further boon to an already overcompensated force. Again, I'm curious as to where this money has gone, as BAH and BAS were both slashed 15% in the Hill AFB area effective in January 00.

Given the tenor of your column, I would assume that you have NEVER had the pleasure of serving your country in her armed forces. Before you take it upon yourself to once more castigate congressional and DOD leadership for attempting to get the families in the military's lowest pay brackets off AFDC, WIC, and food stamps, I suggest that you join a group of deploying soldiers headed for AFGHANISTAN, I leave the choice of service branch up to you. Whatever choice you make, though, opt for the SIX month rotation: it will guarantee you the longest possible time away from your family and friends, thus giving you full "deployment experience."

As your group prepares to board the plane, make sure to note the spouses and children who are saying good-bye to their loved ones. Also take care to note that several families are still unsure of how they'll be able to make ends meet while the primary breadwinner is gone -- obviously they've been squandering the vast piles of cash the DOD has been giving them.

Try to deploy over a major holiday; Christmas and Thanksgiving are perennial favorites.

And when you're actually over there, sitting in a DFP (Defensive Fire Position, the modern-day foxhole), shivering against the cold desert night; and the flight sergeant tells you that there aren't enough people on shift to relieve you for chow, remember this: trade whatever MRE (meal-ready-to-eat) you manage to get for the tuna noodle Casserole or cheese tortellini, and add Tabasco to everything. This gives some flavor.

Talk to your loved ones as often as you are permitted; it won't nearly be long enough or often enough, but take what you can get and be thankful for it. You may have picked up on the fact that I disagree with most of the points you present in your op-ed piece.

But, tomorrow from KABUL, I will defend to the death your right to say it. You see, I am an American fighting man, a guarantor of your First Amendment rights and every other right you cherish. On a daily basis, my brother and sister soldiers worldwide ensure that you and people like you can thumb your collective nose at us, all on a salary that is nothing short of pitiful and under conditions that would make most people cringe.

We hemorrhage our best and brightest into the private sector because we can't offer the stability and pay of civilian companies. And you, Ms Williams, have the gall to say that we make more than we deserve?

Rubbish!

A1C Michael Bragg, Hill AFB AFNCC"

The_Boaphile
03-04-2003, 04:54 AM
I think Cindy Williams might have made a little more cash for standing in front of people making them laugh than our fighting forces are paid to put their lives on the line to defend ours don't you? Yes and thousands have  :-* DIED  :-* to protect her and those who appreciate them alike. Ironic that our great military people fight to protect this pathetic human's right to spew this absolute garbage isn't it? It is also ironic that some of those who have been most successful capitalizing on our freedom and free market place are the same ones who, if anyone has been, so grossly over paid for the totally, utterly and entirely safe "job" they do. Pathetic completely idiotic ungrateful human...

Randy_T.
03-04-2003, 06:40 AM
I agree whole heartedly with you and the soldier (people like her are why I HATED!!! and I mean 100% without a doubt hated all civilians) when my dad retired from the Air Force after serving 21 years defending our pathetic civilian freedoms. I know that many people were grateful and showed it, but as a teenager all I could see was the negative comments made by the worthless and overbairing anti military civilians.

I am sorry for the negativity in my post but I still hold some recentment to those who feel the urge to publicly (which they do have the right which I am greatful for) bash the men and women who put there lives on the line everyday, not to mention the soldiers who died over our countries history.

I am done venting over this now.

tatdaddy
03-04-2003, 07:47 AM
:-*I wish that everyone felt the same way about the service members around the world as you gus do!

Cpl. Hanson
USMC 29PALMS
:-*

Joel DuBay
03-04-2003, 02:34 PM
For ONCE! in my life, I am speechless. I had a brother who would not see his wife or child for 8 months out of the year because his unit was stationed aboard an aircraft carrier patrolloing the waters that seperate our great nation and it's people from everyday terror.

If I ever meet Cindi Smugmouth, I will no doubt let her know how my nice and sister in law felt while my brother was away defending her freeedom, then only to trash those who do.

Now, I need to towel off.

Fonzy
04-24-2003, 03:18 AM
:-* On behalf of all the other service members in our great country's armed forces, I want to thank all of you who have shown your support during this time of war. Although our job is usually a thankless one 99% of the time, the other 1% is when a young boy (about 4 years old) tugs at your shirt and looks up at you so innocently saying, "Good Job!" That is enough to make it all worth while and give you the feeling that you ARE making a difference! I love my country and the freedoms I am afforded. I didn't join the military to get rich, not even to be well-off, but to serve my country for what it has given to me! I am proud to be an american and will die fighting if necessary. Again, thank you for your support!!

SSgt Jeff P. Lafond Jr., USAF
Hill AFB, UT